Curse

shoogi · Dec 09, 2007, 09:22 PM // 21:22

Now tell me, since the introduction of heroes do you play the normal campaigns (stuff like missions and random quests, not things like urgoz) with other people? I don't, and I dont know anyone who does.
Therefore, that update couldn't matter less to the game community.

MasterSasori · Dec 09, 2007, 10:38 PM // 22:38

I think its an interesting move on Anet's part.

Sure there's are pros and cons for this move. IMO, if a level 10 thinks he's good enough to play in EotN, let him or her do so.

It will become apparent whether EotN is too difficult or not by their actions and self-assessment.

And isn't GW stressing Skill>Time?

freekedoutfish · Dec 09, 2007, 11:03 PM // 23:03

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Originally Posted by shoogi

Now tell me, since the introduction of heroes do you play the normal campaigns (stuff like missions and random quests, not things like urgoz) with other people? I don't, and I dont know anyone who does.
Therefore, that update couldn't matter less to the game community.

Yes I do and yes I did. I started using pugs when I did hard mode on all campaigns and found them more fun, if not harder to find. I still us heroes and hench for smaller things which i dont want to spend 30 minutes waiting to start.

EinherjarMx · Dec 09, 2007, 11:16 PM // 23:16

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Originally Posted by bhavv

Guildwars has never been about working your way up to handle more difficult areas. Once you finish noob island, and get level 20 which takes like one or two days max, you are able to play pretty much anywhere you have gotten to as the level of the main game no longer scales. In the case of prophecies, you cant play the higher level areas untill getting through the rest of the game anyway, but that doesnt really matter in GWEN since it only takes a few hours to complete it all.

couldn't agree more

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Originally Posted by bhavv

This whole thread and the OP is elitism in GW at the worst of the worst level.

ZOMFG I am lvl 20 and you are only lvl 10. HAXXXXXXX that you can play the same thing that I can ZOMFG.

Get off your noob horse and realise that level in guild wars DOESNT MEAN A FREAKING THING (no pun intended).

/me hands out bhavv a cookie, nobel prize and the key to duncan's dungeon as a sign of understanding

kilkelo · Dec 10, 2007, 12:22 AM // 00:22

You're telling me I've been wasting my time leveling my Legendary Survivor in Istan all this time?

Your Lucky I Heal · Dec 10, 2007, 12:22 AM // 00:22

IMO i dont like it because....:>>>><<<
1. more build beggers
a. more beggers
b.did i say beggers?
2. immature kids....(dont you hate it when they KEEP TALKING?!?! and they dont know what their talking about)
3. people trying to sell worthless stuff for like 100k

OI-812 · Dec 10, 2007, 12:34 AM // 00:34

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Originally Posted by Your Lucky I Heal

IMO i dont like it because....:>>>><<<
1. more build beggers
a. more beggers
b.did i say beggers?
2. immature kids....(dont you hate it when they KEEP TALKING?!?! and they dont know what their talking about)
3. people trying to sell worthless stuff for like 100k

Oh FFS this is NOTHING new. Deal with it. I did. And on #2: the irony is almost painful.

Sister Rosette · Dec 10, 2007, 03:26 AM // 03:26

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Originally Posted by Your Lucky I Heal

IMO i dont like it because....:>>>><<<
1. more build beggers
a. more beggers
b.did i say beggers?
2. immature kids....(dont you hate it when they KEEP TALKING?!?! and they dont know what their talking about)
3. people trying to sell worthless stuff for like 100k

1. Happens anyway, regardless of level.
a. Again, happens anyway. Some of us have the resources to send our 10's in without asking for handouts.
b. Yeah, you did. And it's "beggars," as long as you're gonna be using the word.
2. Again, happens regardless of level/title/class/etc.
3. Again, how is this specific to level 10's?

RLBadKarma · Dec 10, 2007, 04:56 AM // 04:56

Well, here is the experience of someone who took advantage of this.

The buff for under 20th lvl has a little twist to it:

Yes, your attributes were bumped up, but not "equal" to lvl 20 but comparative. And they stayed there!!!! When you lvl up and allocate new points and you go above the buffed 12-9-9-9, the 12-9-9-9 stays the same until you leave GWEN. Outside of GWEN, my stats were 13-11-6-6.

When you lvl to 20, you have to leave GWEN for the buff to go away.

All in all, I had a great time in GWEN. I lvl'ed to 20 last night. I now have a nice jump on a VERY small goldie collection. And finishing the Norn Primary Quest was very satisfying. I plan on mega exploring this expansion in the future.

Thanks Anet

Hyper.nl · Dec 10, 2007, 08:34 AM // 08:34

I like the lvl10 preview. I did not use it myself because I already have GW:EN but I like the creative solution ANet introduced to even allow low-lvl players to see GW:EN.

anonymous · Dec 10, 2007, 08:54 AM // 08:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Your Lucky I Heal

IMO i dont like it because....:>>>><<<
1. more build beggers
a. more beggers
b.did i say beggers?
2. immature kids....(dont you hate it when they KEEP TALKING?!?! and they dont know what their talking about)
3. people trying to sell worthless stuff for like 100k

lol irony....

Friar Khan · Dec 10, 2007, 10:11 AM // 10:11

I like how this thread is about 1-3 people voicing their complaints and the vast majority of people explaining why those complaints are fairly nonsensical. Now if you'll excuse me I have a level 2 assassin itching to get into GWEN, and of course I'm a noob cuz I'm not going to be a level 20 when I enter GWEN.

jrk247 · Dec 10, 2007, 10:27 AM // 10:27

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

Whats your view on Anet allowing level 10s now into GWEN?

Doesn't bother me at all. I played the game and I could care less what level you need to be to enter because it really doesn't affect me. Don't care if they let other people into the game, good for them. If you really have a problem with Anet doing this, level up to level 20 before going to EotN, how does someone else being able to enter EotN affect you? It doesn't.

It's a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing game, let people play it the way they want and stop taking it so RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing serious. God forbid someone gets to enjoy the game they bought. So what if Anet made EotN for level 20's, just play the game and stop making stupid pointless rant threads everytime you don't get your way or disagree with something.

darkk wound · Dec 10, 2007, 10:34 AM // 10:34

im not really bothered about it because i never PUG, PUGS = FAIL always h/h but anet said GWEN would be for max players anet just went back on there word, but what do you expect from anet ?

bigtime102 · Dec 10, 2007, 11:50 AM // 11:50

I know theres lots people that like to get to the end of the game without haveing to go through the middle, the same people that get run to places all over the map and begging for money when they cant afford anything when they get there. Thats fine you play how you want. But I always believed you cant pander to everyone without the expense of someone. And the people Anet seems to be pandering too - god mode- crowd I want nothing apart of. I was planning on getting EoTN after ascending in Prophecies, but now I see no reason too, for the same reason I didnt get factions or Nightfall, because its not more content to do, like adding more harder areas to the game with greater rewards, its just "another" area to do like Nightfall or factions which is not what I was looking for in an expansion. That and the 5 hour trial that expired on me before I even had a chance to enter EoTN kinda tipped me off $40 wasnt worth the content. And yes, in an online game where we share the economy, letting people play in god mode does have an effect on the rest of us - economy.

Level 1's should be able to enter EoTN, but they shouldnt get any buffs, whats next? why not have everyone start at 20 and buff us to near max armor, give us near max weapons so we can play the end game content we payed for? ....

waiting for GW2, not going to support crap though.

OI-812 · Dec 10, 2007, 11:59 AM // 11:59

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Originally Posted by bigtime102

And yes, in an online game where we share the economy, letting people play in god mode does have an effect on the rest of us - economy.

It's a game. Screw the economy. Go farm up some cash yourself or shut the hell up about "economy". If you don't like the way the economy is headed, say. the price on a certain item is getting out of hand, then quit whining, don't buy the damn thing, and go find your own, or make do with what you have. The economy is just like any other part of the game, a game within a game as it were - you don't HAVE to play it if you don't want to. I have never bought or traded for a single damn thing. I wanted a good bow, I went out and hit Uhiwi over and over again and got myself a good bow. Screw buying/trading. And eventually, if enough people refuse to play in the sh*tty economy game, the economy is going to have to change accordingly to become more desirable.

cellardweller · Dec 10, 2007, 12:04 PM // 12:04

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Originally Posted by bigtime102

why not have everyone start at 20 and buff us to near max armor, give us near max weapons so we can play the end game content we payed for? ....

/signed. Great idea.

I GO TO AMERICA · Dec 10, 2007, 12:16 PM // 12:16

I dont care.

tmakinen · Dec 10, 2007, 12:24 PM // 12:24

I don't currently have any sub-20 characters so this thing doesn't affect me at all, and thus I couldn't care less.

On the other hand, I couldn't fail to notice that ANet is testing out new game mechanics for GW2 where this kind of level adjusting will be prevalent.

Phoenix Tears · Dec 10, 2007, 12:25 PM // 12:25

id find this buff only ok, if those lvl 10 players WOULD NOT RECEIVE ANY EXP WHILE THIS EVENT IS RUNNING...

means, when the trial event is over...those lvl 10's get kicked out their lazy asses out of EotN.
This means, while gettign the trial on EotN..they get only buffed like lvl 20 with the ABSOLUTE EXACT AMOUNT ouf ATTRIBUTE POINTS and not more!!! and when the event is over, those buffed charas are lvl 10 agaon with their old AP..as if nothing would have had happened

then can't this event be used to powerlevel in GW:EN in several minutes from level 10 to 20 by dwarven boxing and due to the fact, that dieing in dwarven boxing doesn't count as DEATH...powerleveling at this is the most easiest way to receive massive amounts of exp for the survivor title ...

NO, just no, this event is anet typical shit....and they ignore their own concepts ...just for promotion >.<